De Lima turns emotional, confronts accusers at Senate

Bea Cupin
De Lima turns emotional, confronts accusers at Senate
'I've had enough of you. Kayong lahat na mga nagsisinungaling,' Senator Leila de Lima lashes out during a Senate hearing

MANILA, Philippines – Things turned emotional and occasionally heated at the Senate floor on Monday, December 5, as the Senate continued its probe into the death of Albuera mayor Rolando Espinosa Sr.

But it wasn’t Espinosa’s death itself that sparked heated exchanges and emotional outbursts, but a confrontation between two public personalities belonging to different sides in the Philippines’ war on drugs: Philippine National Police (PNP) chief Director General Ronald dela Rosa and chief Duterte critic Senator Leila de Lima. 

During her first round of questioning, De Lima grilled Dela Rosa over his apparent failure to properly disclose who had really intervened in the relief of a cop who eventually approved and led the operation that resulted in the death of Espinosa.

In an interview early last week, Dela Rosa revealed that he had relieved Superintendent Marcos, former Criminal Investigation and Criminal Group (CIDG) Region 8 chief, because he was named as a drug protector by Kerwin Espinosa, the mayor’s son. But the relief was stopped on the same day after President Rodrigo Duterte intervened via a phone call. 

Dela Rosa had initially only identified the person as a “higher-up” and later, a “kumpare” (friend). De Lima then said it was Special Assistant to the President Bong Go, a long-time aide, who made the phone call. Both Go and Dela Rosa denied this. 

Eventually, Duterte relented and admitted that Go called Dela Rosa on his orders. 

De Lima pressed Dela Rosa on whether he would have disclosed the identity of the caller if Duterte never owned up to it. “I will cross the bridge when I get there,” said Dela Rosa. 

But De Lima insisted on getting an answer, concluding that Dela Rosa would have eventually pointed to Duterte anyway. 

It was at this point that Dela Rosa, who usually keeps his cool in public, raised his voice. “Kung maipit, your honor, sasabihin ko. Magpalit tayo ng posisyon, your honor. Ikaw ang mag-chief PNP. Kung kaya ‘nyo bang i-blame si Presidente (If forced, your honor, I will admit it. Let’s exchange places, your honor. You be the PNP chief. Would you be able to blame the president)?” he said. 

Senator Panfilo Lacson, a former PNP chief himself, gestured for Dela Rosa to calm down. “Ronald, Ronald,” he spoke into the microphone. 

DESPAIR. The Senate committee on public order and dangerous drugs and the committee on justice and human rights resume their probe on December 5, 2016. Senator Leila de Lima despairs. Photo by LeAnne Jazul/Rappler

De Lima: I’ve had enough of you

De Lima also raised her voice in response. “Please don’t argue with me. I’m the one asking you the questions here. Do not argue with me. I’ve had enough of you. Kayong lahat na mga nagsisinungaling (All of you liars). Go ahead, answer the question,” she said. 

De Lima, who was justice chief from 2010 to 2015, is the highest official being accused by no less than President Rodrigo Duterte of having ties to illegal drugs. 

Before the House of Representatives, inmates from the New Bilibid Prison, and former National Bureau of Investigation officials had accused De Lima of accepting drug money to fund her campaign. 

The biggest and most recent witnesses against her were present during the Monday hearing at the Senate – alleged Eastern Visayas drug lord Kerwin Espinosa and Ronnie Dayan, De Lima’s former bodyguard and boyfriend. 

In her second round of questioning – the last among senators on Monday – De Lima again turned emotional as she addressed both Espinosa and Dayan. 

Alam ko may mga dahilan kung bakit napipilitan kayong ituro ako. Hindi ko kayo pipilitin, although I’m telling you I forgive you…Hindi ko po kayo sinisisi. Hindi po ako talaga galit sa inyo. Galit po ako dun sa mga taong gumagamit sa inyo. You are both vulnerable. Ginagamit kayo para siraan lang ako. Dun ako galit. And I will know in due time who they are,” she said.

(I know the reason why you’re forced to accuse me of these things. I won’t force you but I’m telling you, I forgive you. I do not blame you. I’m not really mad at you. I am angry at those who are using you. You are both vulnerable. You’re being used to destroy me. That’s what makes me angry. And I will know in due time who they are.) 

She added: “If, susubukan ko lang, nag-a-appeal lang ako sa inyo, magsabi na kayo ng totoo; na hindi totoo yung sinasabi ninyong kilala kita, na tumanggap ako, et cetera, et cetera (I just want to try and appeal to you to tell the truth, that all you’re saying is not true, that I know you, that I got money from you).”

Espinosa had earlier claimed he gave over P8 million to De Lima as “protection money.” Dayan has claimed that he got the money from Espinosa on behalf of De Lima. The finer details of their testimonies, however, differ. – 

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Bea Cupin

Bea is a senior multimedia reporter who covers national politics. She's been a journalist since 2011 and has written about Congress, the national police, and the Liberal Party for Rappler.